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Indexing fails/database corrupts - amk - 2025-01-31

Been trying to get my library onto the tangara for a few days now. I'm running firmware 1.2 (but tried 1.0, 1.1.2) but I've been running into issues when it tries to index the library. 

What usually happens is it starts scanning and then gives up after a while and lets me browse the database (but not scroll as it freezes) and shows that only a few artists have been indexed. If i check the database settings page it shows that it is 0.0kb

I've tried a couple of things, my library is fairly large (30000 songs) so that may also be part of the problem
  • my library by default is in mp3s and FLAC (around 600gb), indexing this fails database says its 0kb
  • transcoding all the flac to opus had no effect
  • copying over small parts of the music library (All artists beginning with C for example, or a couple of artists) works okay, but adding further music sometimes corrupts the database and it goes back to 0kb
  • Using a 64gb sandisk sd card works fine, just cant contain the whole library, it also works with the storage mode over USB (the 1tb card does not work over usb and results in a no SD card inserted error when turning off the usb storage mode)
  • changing to FAT32 from exfat had no effect
  • Including only opus files also fails, tried this in case some old mp3 or flac was corrupted, but all opus is freshly transcoded

Maybe its an SD card issue, I'm using a 1tb Sandisk card, but I cant test others with my whole library as I dont have another big enough and with the 64gig ones they seem to work okay

I can zip up one of the 0kb databases if it'd help debugging

RE: Indexing fails/database corrupts - taivlam - 2025-02-02

(2025-01-31, 09:57 AM)amk Wrote: Been trying to get my library onto the tangara for a few days now. I'm running firmware 1.2 (but tried 1.0, 1.1.2) but I've been running into issues when it tries to index the library. 

What usually happens is it starts scanning and then gives up after a while and lets me browse the database (but not scroll as it freezes) and shows that only a few artists have been indexed. If i check the database settings page it shows that it is 0.0kb

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Have you tried first saving all of your music onto your (micro)SD card, next connecting the (micro)SD card, and lastly reflashing your Tangara?  That is how I was able to make my microSD card readable on my new Tangara, as I described in another thread.

(In my issue, I never even saw my Tangara showing a loading message that the database was being created.)

RE: Indexing fails/database corrupts - PetitDebardeurRose - 2025-02-03

Also echoing OP's comments here...have the latest firmware and flashed it once without anything on my SD card and then put maybe 50gigs worth of music which it later seemed to index fine after being on all night. Since then I added more to my card and my current total is 331gbs and now it never indexes everything. Have done a re-flash once and used the update feature in the Database tab, but I still also get the 0kb index that OP stated happened. Also, trying to navigate tracks is painfully slow in this state when scrolling and even at max speed scrolling, it will chug and it can take a minute to even be able to scroll up to exit from the tracks field.

RE: Indexing fails/database corrupts - amk - 2025-02-03

I think this is SD card compatibility issue, I picked up a SanDisk 256 GB card and scanning seems to be working fine/not giving up -- generally things seem to be working as expected, though i'm waiting for a full scan to finish, however a quarter of my library seemed to scan and work okay.
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Finished a full scan, seems to have worked fine on the 250gb card, so seems fairly certain to be an SD compat issue

RE: Indexing fails/database corrupts - PetitDebardeurRose - 2025-02-04

(2025-02-03, 07:35 PM)amk Wrote: I think this is SD card compatibility issue, I picked up a SanDisk 256 GB card and scanning seems to be working fine/not giving up -- generally things seem to be working as expected, though i'm waiting for a full scan to finish, however a quarter of my library seemed to scan and work okay.
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Finished a full scan, seems to have worked fine on the 250gb card, so seems fairly certain to be an SD compat issue
working with a new SanDisk Ultra 1.5TB micro-SD myself (along with SanDisk adapter)

that 256gb one you got, is it the big fat kind? did you fill it all the way up and have it work? right now i'm testing what the limits are for my card...about to see if it will index 76.1gbs as the last full index it worked with was 49.6gbs

RE: Indexing fails/database corrupts - amk - 2025-02-04

Its just a regular microsd sized one, its one of the "extreme" ones that are gold and red. The transcoded opus version of my music library fits in with 40~ gb to spare but everything (30k tracks) seemed to index okay, itd be nice to add an Artists/Albums/Tracks total to the database page to make sure as i can compare to other things then

RE: Indexing fails/database corrupts - PetitDebardeurRose - 2025-02-04

(Yesterday, 04:00 PM)amk Wrote: Its just a regular microsd sized one, its one of the "extreme" ones that are gold and red. The transcoded opus version of my music library fits in with 40~ gb to spare but everything (30k tracks) seemed to index okay, itd be nice to add an Artists/Albums/Tracks total to the database page to make sure as i can compare to other things then
gotcha

so far the only thing thats worked for me is when adding music, to manually delete everything on the microSD that isn't the music folder, then flash the firmware without the card in it, and then after that is done to turn off, insert the memory card, reboot and at that point it seems to index fine.

thus far i've got it to index to about 80gigs fine, so if I keep doing this I might eventually find where it starts to really struggle, but at the moment i'm making due with just a smaller collection

RE: Indexing fails/database corrupts - jacqueline - 2025-02-04

The specific SD card definitely seems to be a huge factor in these issues AFAICT. Hopefully we can get our hands on some cards with similar performance characteristics soon!